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Timchambers
The 1 John 3:13-15 in the OEB reads:

13 Do not wonder, friends, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love each other. The person who does not love remains in a state of death. 15 The person who hates another is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life within them.

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Do not be surprised, brothers and sisters, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed from death into life, because we love each other. The person who does not love remains in death.  And the one who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
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Timchambers
1 John 3:16-18 in the OEB reads:

We have learned to know what love is from this — that Christ laid down his life on our behalf. Therefore we also ought to lay down our lives for each other. 17 But, if anyone has worldly possessions, and yet looks on while one of our own is in need, and steels their heart against that person, how can it be said that the love of God is within them? 18 My children, do not let our love be mere words, or end in talk; let it be true and show itself in acts.

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This is how we have come to know love, he laid down His life for us. And we should also lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.  If anyone has this world’s possessions, and sees his brother or sister in need but closes his heart to them, how can God’s love reside in him? Little children, let us not love with words or talk but in actions and truth.
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Timchambers
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1 John 3:19-24

19 By that we will know that we are on the side of the truth; and we will satisfy ourselves in God's sight, 20 that if our conscience condemns us, yet God is greater than our conscience and knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our conscience does not condemn us, then we approach God with confidence, 22 and we receive from him whatever we ask, because we are laying his commands to heart, and are doing what is pleasing in his sight. 23 His command is this — that we should put our trust in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another, in accordance with the command that he gave us. 24 And the person who lays his commands to heart maintains union with Christ, and Christ with them. And by this we know that Christ maintains union with us — by our possession of the Spirit which he gave us.

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This is how we will know we belong to the truth and will convince our hearts of this in His presence, even if our hearts condemns us: that God is greater than our hearts, and He knows all things. Dear friends, if our heart does not condemn us, then we approach God with confidence, and we receive from him whatever we ask, because we keep his commandments and do what is pleasing to him.  His command is this: that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commands remains in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that he remains in us — by the the Spirit that he has given us.
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Timchambers
1 John 4:1-3 reads in the OEB:

Dear friends, do not trust every inspiration, but test each inspiration, to see whether it proceeds from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is the way by which to know the inspiration of God — All inspiration that acknowledges Jesus Christ as come in our human nature is from God; 3 while all inspiration that does not acknowledge Jesus is not inspiration from God. It is the inspiration of the Antichrist; you have heard that it was to come, and it is now already in the world.

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Dear friends, do not trust every spirit, but test the spirits, to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how to know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ as come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. It is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard that it was to come, and now is now already in the world.
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Timchambers
1 John 4:4-6 in the OEB now reads:

You, my children, come from God, and you have successfully resisted such people as these, because he who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 Those people belong to the world; and therefore they speak as the world speaks, and the world listens to them. 6 We come from God. He who knows God listens to us; the person who does not come from God does not listen to us. By that we may know the true inspiration from the false.

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My children, you have come from God, and you have overcome them, because he who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are of the world and therefore what they say is of the world, and the world listens to them. We come from God. Whoever knows God listens to us - the person who does not come from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.
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Timchambers
1 John 4:7-10 in the OEB reads:

7 Dear friends, let us love one another, because love comes from God, and everyone who loves has received the new life from God and knows God. 8 The person who does not love has not learned to know God; for God is love. 9 The love of God was revealed to us by his sending his only Son into the world, so that we might find life through him. 10 His love is seen in this — not in our having loved God, but in his loving us and sending his Son to be an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

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Dear friends, let us love one another, because love comes from God; and everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we had loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
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1 John 4:11-16 in the OEB reads:

Dear friends, since God loved us in this way, we, surely, ought to love one another. 12 No human eyes have ever seen God, yet, if we love one another, God remains in union with us, and his love attains its perfection in us. 13 We know that we remain in union with him, and he with us, by this — by his having given us some measure of his Spirit. 14 Moreover, our eyes have seen — and we are testifying to the fact — that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 Whoever acknowledges that Jesus Christ is the Son of God — God remains in union with that man, and he with God. 16 And, moreover, we have learned to know, and have accepted as a fact, the love which God has for us.
God is love; and whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

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Dear friends, if God loved us in this way, we ought to love one another also. No one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God remains in us, and his love is perfected in us. By this is how we know that we remain in Him and He in us: He has given us his Spirit.  And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God remains in him, and he in God. And so we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and the one who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.
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Timchambers
1 John 4:17-21 in the OEB reads:

17 It is through this that love has attained its perfection in us, so that we may have confidence on the day of judgment, because what Christ is that we also are in this world. 18 There is no fear in love. No! Love, when perfect, drives out fear, because fear implies punishment, and the person who feels fear has not attained to perfect love. 19 We love, because God first loved us. 20 If someone says ‘I love God,’ and yet hates another person, they are a liar; for the person who does not love their fellow, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 21 Indeed, we have this command from God — ‘Those who love God must also love each other.’

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By this love is perfected in us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because because just as Jesus is, so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear.
Fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. We love, because he first loved us.  If someone says ‘I love God,’ and yet hates his brother or sister, they are a liar.  For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.  And we have this command from Him: The one who loves God must also love his brother or sister.
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Timchambers
1 John 5:1-4 reads in the OEB:

Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has received the new life from God; and everyone who loves him who gave that life loves him who has received it. 2 By this we know that we love God's children — when we love God and carry out his commands. 3 For to love God is to lay his commands to heart; and his commands are not burdensome, 4 because all that has received the new life from God conquers the world. And this is the power that has conquered the world — our faith!  

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Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves the child who is born of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep his commandments.  For this is the love of God: that we keep his commandments. His commandments are not a burden, for whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith.
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Timchambers
1 John 5:6-9 in the OEB reads:

Who is the person that conquers the world but the person who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 He it is whose coming was by water and blood — Jesus Christ himself; not by water only, but by water and by blood. And there is the Spirit also to bear testimony, and the Spirit is truth itself. 7 It is a threefold testimony — 8 that of the Spirit, the water, and the blood — and these three are at one.

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Who is the person that overcomes the world but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 He it is whose coming was by water and blood — Jesus Christ himself.  Not by water only, but by water and by blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water, and the blood — and these three three agree.


QUESTION MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE VERSE 8 IN THE BODY BUT IN A FOOTNOTE SIMILAR TO HOW THE NIV DOES:

1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)
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Timchambers
1 John 5:9-12 in the OEB reads:

We accept the testimony of people, but God's testimony is still stronger; and there is the testimony of God — the fact that he has already borne testimony about his Son. 10 The person who believes in the Son of God has that testimony within them. The person who does not believe God has made God a liar, by refusing to believe in that testimony which he has borne about his Son. 11 And that testimony is that God gave us eternal life, and that this life is in his Son. 12 The person who finds the Son finds life; the person who does not find the Son of God does not find life.

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If we accept the testimony of men, the God's testimony is greater, because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. The one who believes in the Son of God has that testimony within him. The one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony God has given about His Son. And this is that testimony: that God gave us eternal life, and that this life is in his Son.  Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
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1 John 5:13-17 in the OEB reads:

13 I write this to you so that you may realize that you have found eternal life — you who believe in the name of the Son of God. 14 And this is the confidence with which we approach him, that whenever we ask anything that is in accordance with his will, he listens to us. 15 And if we realize that he listens to us — whatever we ask — we realize that we have what we have asked from him. 16 If anyone sees one of our people committing some sin that is not a deadly sin, they will ask, and so be the means of giving life to them — to any whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin; about that I do not say that a person should pray. 17 Every wrong action is sin, and there is sin that is not deadly.

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I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.   And this is the confidence we have before him: that whenever we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us - whatever we ask - we know that we have the requests which we have asked of him. If you see any brother or sister commit a sin not leading to death, you should ask, and God will give them life.  There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.

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Timchambers
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1 john 5:18-21 reads:

18 We know that no one who has received the new life from God lives in sin. No, the person who has received the new life from God keeps the thought of God in their heart, and then the evil one does not touch them. 19 We realize that we come from God, while all the world is under the influence of the evil one. 20 We realize, too, that the Son of God has come among us, and has given us the discernment to know the true God; and we are in union with the true God by our union with his Son, Jesus Christ. He is the true God and he is eternal life. 21 My children, guard yourselves against false ideas of God.

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We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep sinning. the One who was born of God keeps them, and the evil one cannot harm them. We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. We know that we of God, while all the world is under the power of the evil one.
We also know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true - and we are in him who is true - in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
Little children, keep yourselves from idols.
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Timchambers
OK, done!
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russellallen wrote
I totally get the impulse to do better than 'world'!
Doing my devotions in 1 John 3.1 and I realize that kosmos has got to be harking back to a Hebraic concept. What must that be? I'm thinking that John may be remembering the use of adam in verses like Proverbs 15.11,20, and 20.24 (etc.) that contrast the man of this adamah, this earth, with those who have their eyes set on something beyond it. I'm not feeling at all solid on this, but for myself I'm going to read 1J 3.1b as This is why humanity does not recognize us, because they don't know him. And I hope that contributes to the discussion.
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