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Christological Hymns/Liturgy in the epistles

Brian J. Henry
Looking at Philippians 2 in the other thread, I realized 2:6-11 should be formatted as a poem as it is in NET, NRSV, NIV, and others.

There are a couple others that aren't formatted as such either, namely Colossians 1:15-20, 1 Timothy 2:5-6, 2 Timothy 2:11-13, and Titus 3:4-7.

Philippians:
5  Let the <spirit>[mindset? see also phil. 2:2] of Christ Jesus be yours also<.>[:]
6  Though the divine nature was his from the beginning,
       <yet> he did not <look on>[regard, consider] equality with God
       as <above all things> [something] to be clung to<,>[.] (? translated various ways, should look into)
7  <but impoverished> [Instead, he emptied] himself
       by taking the nature of a servant
       and becoming like one of us;
8  he appeared among us as a man,
       and still further humbled himself,
       <by submitting even to> [becoming obedient to the point of] death—
       <to> [even] death on a cross!
9  And that is why God [highly exalted him,] <raised him to the very highest place,>
       and gave him the name
      which stands above all other names,
10  so that <in adoration of>[at?] the name of Jesus
      every knee [will bow,] <should bend,>
      in heaven, on earth, and under the earth,
11  and <that> every tongue [will confess]<should acknowledge>
       [That Jesus Christ is Lord] < JESUS CHRIST as LORD — >
       to the glory of God the Father.
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Re: Christological Hymns/Liturgy in the epistles

russellallen
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Hi Brian,

Bringing out probable hymns/liturgy by formatting sounds like a great
idea.

Apologies to you and to Tim for not replying to your great comments! I
haven't been ignoring you, just been caught up in work and life. I'm
escaping for a week for some R&R, then I should be back refreshed to
incorporate all the changes and some I've been working on.

Best wishes,
Russell

On 2013-07-25 20:08, Brian J. Henry [via Open English Bible] wrote:

> Looking at Philippians 2 in the other thread, I realized 2:6-11
> should be formatted as a poem as it is in NET, NRSV, NIV, and others.
>
> There are a couple others that aren't formatted as such either,
> namely Colossians 1:15-20, 1 Timothy 2:5-6, 2 Timothy 2:11-13, and
> Titus 3:4-7.
>
> Philippians:
>
>> 5 Let the <spirit>[mindset? see also phil. 2:2] of Christ Jesus be
>> yours also<.>[:]
>> 6 Though the divine nature was his from the beginning,
>> <yet> he did not <look on>[regard, consider] equality with God
>> as <above all things> [something] to be clung to<,>[.] (? translated
>> various ways, should look into)
>> 7 <but impoverished> [Instead, he emptied] himself
>> by taking the nature of a servant
>> and becoming like one of us;
>> 8 he appeared among us as a man,
>> and still further humbled himself,
>> <by submitting even to> [becoming obedient to the point of] death—
>> <to> [even] death on a cross!
>> 9 And that is why God [highly exalted him,] <raised him to the very
>> highest place,>
>> and gave him the name
>> which stands above all other names,
>> 10 so that <in adoration of>[at?] the name of Jesus
>> every knee [will bow,] <should bend,>
>> in heaven, on earth, and under the earth,
>> 11 and <that> every tongue [will confess]<should acknowledge>
>> [That Jesus Christ is Lord] < JESUS CHRIST as LORD — >
>> to the glory of God the Father.
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Brian J. Henry
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@russellallen No worries! Completely understand. :) Hope you're enjoying your week.

Here's Colossians 1:
15  [He] is the [image] of the [unseen] God
         First-born [over] all creation.
16   For in him [all things were] created
         In [the] heaven[s] and on earth,
           [Seen and unseen] —
         [Whether thrones or lordships,
             Rulers or powers¹ —]
       All [things have] been created
           Through him and for him.

[17]  [And] he [is] before all things,
           And [in him] all things [are held together;]
18     And he is the head of the church,
           Which is his body.

    [He is the beginning,]
        First-born from the dead,
           [So] that he [may become the Leader² in all things.]
19  For [in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell,]
20    And through him [God was pleased]
           To reconcile [completely] all things [in]to himself
     Making peace [through] the blood [of his] cross —
        [Through him,] whether [things] on earth
             Or [things] in [the] heaven[s].

(or this?)
[Through him, both things] on earth
     [And] in [the] heaven[s].
¹ This is a recurring phrase, in the epistles and also twice in luke, maybe look into making them a bit more uniform?
² Nyland notes this is a title, though she awkwardly translates it as "Holder of the First Place."
(that turned out rather messy marking all the omissions, so I just took them out, does that work? if it's easier, I do have a copy saved with them still marked.)
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Brian J. Henry
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1 Timothy 2:5-6
5 [For]
   There is but one God,
       and [also] one mediator between God and <men>[humanity] —
   <the man, >Christ Jesus, [himself human,]
6     who gave himself as a ransom on behalf of all <men>[people].

This must be our testimony, as opportunities present themselves;
2 Timothy 2:11-13
11  How true this saying is —

‘If we <have shared his death>[died with him], we will also [live with him.] <share his life.> 
12  If we continue to endure, we will also [reign with him.] <share his throne.>
If we <should ever disown>[deny]¹ him, he, too, will <disown>[deny] us.
13  If we <lose our trust>[are unfaithful], he <is still> [remains faithful,] <to be trusted,>
For he cannot <be false to>[deny] himself!’
¹ Deny flows better with "died" earlier, disown might be slightly more clear though.

Titus 3:4-7
4  But, when the kindness of God our Savior
and his love for humanity were revealed,
[5] he saved us,
<5>  not <as the result of any righteous actions that>[because of any deeds] we had done [righteously),
but [through his own mercy.]<in fulfillment of his merciful purposes.>
He saved us by that washing which was a new birth to us,
and by the renewing power of the Holy Spirit,
6  which he poured out on us abundantly
through Jesus Christ our Savior<;>[,]
7  [so] that, having been <pronounced righteous through his loving kindness>[justified¹ by his grace],
we <might enter on our inheritance>[may become heirs] with the hope of <eternal life>².
¹ I think this came up in James too. This is a common one throughout the Pauline epistles.
² N.T. Wright translates this and other instances of zoe aionios as "life of the age to come", "life of the coming age" or "life of God's coming age" and I really, really like that.
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