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Ways to Promote the OEB

Timchambers
Figured the idea of how to best promote and get the word out about the OEB deserved it's own thread.

A few ideas to get this brainstorming started:

1.  Even a modest ad buy on Google to point anyone searching for Bible translation, new Bible translation, public domain Bible, crowd sourced Bible, etc, keywords?  (If there is zero budget maybe consider doing a kickstarter, or other crowdfunding effort to pay for ads)

This can also apply to Facebook ads driving Likes and notice to the FB page.

2. Build out info on the Wikipedia page for the OEB and look for other places to post info about it there?

3. Blog outreach effort: Maybe once we hit a place where the NT translation feels ready, offer to go to Bible translation blogs and do some specific co-blogging with them on the effort.

Maybe places like: http://betterbibles.com/
And: http://goddidntsaythat.com/

And any of these: http://betterbibles.com/blogroll/

4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.

- Youversion: https://www.bible.com/
- Bible Gateway: http://www.biblegateway.com/
- Biblia.com http://biblia.com/
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Timchambers
Some other possible spots:

Bible Translation Group Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111395117726367810866

Bible Translation Group - Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BibleTranslation/
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russellallen
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Good ideas!

I've actually been experimenting for a little while with an ad buy on Google but for a small amount of money. So far what seems to happen in that traffic is driven to the site, but people mostly look and leave. What is hard to see is what proportion later revisit directly. 

I haven't tried facebook ads. The facebook likes have been steadily growing though.

The Wikipedia page is great, and the major driver of traffic to the OEB site after google searches. I haven't done any editing on it myself as initially I was worried it would be deleted as not noteworthy if it was created by someone so clearly connected. The publication of Hal Taussig's version might help. Are you or anyone else on this forum a respected Wikipedia editor by any chance?

I've mentioned the OEB a couple of times on betterbibles.com (as a below the line commentor!) and had a couple of short emails with some of the people there. I think this is a good idea - maybe in a couple of revisions of the NT.

We've been picked up by some of the online bible web services, but not the major ones that you mention. I agree they are more meaningful than a print version (which we could do at any time via Lulu or equivalent if we wanted, though not with proper thin Bible paper)

Russell


On 7 Dec 2013, at 3:06 am, Timchambers [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Figured the idea of how to best promote and get the word out about the OEB deserved it's own thread.

A few ideas to get this brainstorming started:

1.  Even a modest ad buy on Google to point anyone searching for Bible translation, new Bible translation, public domain Bible, crowd sourced Bible, etc, keywords?  (If there is zero budget maybe consider doing a kickstarter, or other crowdfunding effort to pay for ads)

This can also apply to Facebook ads driving Likes and notice to the FB page.

2. Build out info on the Wikipedia page for the OEB and look for other places to post info about it there?

3. Blog outreach effort: Maybe once we hit a place where the NT translation feels ready, offer to go to Bible translation blogs and do some specific co-blogging with them on the effort.

Maybe places like: http://betterbibles.com/
And: http://goddidntsaythat.com/

And any of these: http://betterbibles.com/blogroll/

4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.

- Youversion: https://www.bible.com/
- Bible Gateway: http://www.biblegateway.com/
- Biblia.com http://biblia.com/



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Re: Ways to Promote the OEB

Pleonic

I've been a Wikipedia editor for several years and wrote the original 20th Century New Testament and Common English Bible articles. I'll see what I can do on the OEB article. If there are any points you'd especially want made please let me know.

On Dec 7, 2013 11:58 PM, "russellallen [via Open English Bible]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Good ideas!

I've actually been experimenting for a little while with an ad buy on Google but for a small amount of money. So far what seems to happen in that traffic is driven to the site, but people mostly look and leave. What is hard to see is what proportion later revisit directly. 

I haven't tried facebook ads. The facebook likes have been steadily growing though.

The Wikipedia page is great, and the major driver of traffic to the OEB site after google searches. I haven't done any editing on it myself as initially I was worried it would be deleted as not noteworthy if it was created by someone so clearly connected. The publication of Hal Taussig's version might help. Are you or anyone else on this forum a respected Wikipedia editor by any chance?

I've mentioned the OEB a couple of times on betterbibles.com (as a below the line commentor!) and had a couple of short emails with some of the people there. I think this is a good idea - maybe in a couple of revisions of the NT.

We've been picked up by some of the online bible web services, but not the major ones that you mention. I agree they are more meaningful than a print version (which we could do at any time via Lulu or equivalent if we wanted, though not with proper thin Bible paper)

Russell


On 7 Dec 2013, at 3:06 am, Timchambers [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Figured the idea of how to best promote and get the word out about the OEB deserved it's own thread.

A few ideas to get this brainstorming started:

1.  Even a modest ad buy on Google to point anyone searching for Bible translation, new Bible translation, public domain Bible, crowd sourced Bible, etc, keywords?  (If there is zero budget maybe consider doing a kickstarter, or other crowdfunding effort to pay for ads)

This can also apply to Facebook ads driving Likes and notice to the FB page.

2. Build out info on the Wikipedia page for the OEB and look for other places to post info about it there?

3. Blog outreach effort: Maybe once we hit a place where the NT translation feels ready, offer to go to Bible translation blogs and do some specific co-blogging with them on the effort.

Maybe places like: http://betterbibles.com/
And: http://goddidntsaythat.com/

And any of these: http://betterbibles.com/blogroll/

4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.

- Youversion: https://www.bible.com/
- Bible Gateway: http://www.biblegateway.com/
- Biblia.com http://biblia.com/



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russellallen
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That's very cool, thanks. 

The main thing which I think it would be good to add is that a modified version of the NT was published by Hal Tuassig and his team. That's a legit publication by a large press (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt), which acknowledges the OEB as its source so its a really pleasing example of the sort of reuse which hopefully other people will make of the OEB in the future.

Russell

On 8 Dec 2013, at 5:53 pm, Pleonic [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've been a Wikipedia editor for several years and wrote the original 20th Century New Testament and Common English Bible articles. I'll see what I can do on the OEB article. If there are any points you'd especially want made please let me know.

On Dec 7, 2013 11:58 PM, "russellallen [via Open English Bible]" <<a href="x-msg://8/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=227&amp;i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
Good ideas!

I've actually been experimenting for a little while with an ad buy on Google but for a small amount of money. So far what seems to happen in that traffic is driven to the site, but people mostly look and leave. What is hard to see is what proportion later revisit directly. 

I haven't tried facebook ads. The facebook likes have been steadily growing though.

The Wikipedia page is great, and the major driver of traffic to the OEB site after google searches. I haven't done any editing on it myself as initially I was worried it would be deleted as not noteworthy if it was created by someone so clearly connected. The publication of Hal Taussig's version might help. Are you or anyone else on this forum a respected Wikipedia editor by any chance?

I've mentioned the OEB a couple of times on betterbibles.com (as a below the line commentor!) and had a couple of short emails with some of the people there. I think this is a good idea - maybe in a couple of revisions of the NT.

We've been picked up by some of the online bible web services, but not the major ones that you mention. I agree they are more meaningful than a print version (which we could do at any time via Lulu or equivalent if we wanted, though not with proper thin Bible paper)

Russell


On 7 Dec 2013, at 3:06 am, Timchambers [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Figured the idea of how to best promote and get the word out about the OEB deserved it's own thread.

A few ideas to get this brainstorming started:

1.  Even a modest ad buy on Google to point anyone searching for Bible translation, new Bible translation, public domain Bible, crowd sourced Bible, etc, keywords?  (If there is zero budget maybe consider doing a kickstarter, or other crowdfunding effort to pay for ads)

This can also apply to Facebook ads driving Likes and notice to the FB page.

2. Build out info on the Wikipedia page for the OEB and look for other places to post info about it there?

3. Blog outreach effort: Maybe once we hit a place where the NT translation feels ready, offer to go to Bible translation blogs and do some specific co-blogging with them on the effort.

Maybe places like: http://betterbibles.com/
And: http://goddidntsaythat.com/

And any of these: http://betterbibles.com/blogroll/

4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.

- Youversion: https://www.bible.com/
- Bible Gateway: http://www.biblegateway.com/
- Biblia.com http://biblia.com/



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Timchambers
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And one more blog to consider talking to when the time is right:

http://bltnotjustasandwich.com/
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Pleonic
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Following the example of some other Bible articles (e.g., the ESV), I've added a "Use" section to the OEB's wikipedia page, and inserted some info on Hal Taussig's use of it in his 'New, New Testament' book. As usage of the OEB grows we can add them there.
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Timchambers
The addition looks good - Maybe we add a note there about the upcoming target dates for new releases?
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Timchambers
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Russel wrote: "We've been picked up by some of the online bible web services..."
That's cool: which ones?

And when would you think the translation would be ready for the more major ones? Maybe also in a couple more revs?
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Timchambers
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Also you might cross post this onto the blog and onto your social nets:

As this Richard Beck a popular blogger wrote up his year end highlights for 2013, that some of his work informed notes to the next verison of the OEB was one of them:

http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/2014/01/experimental-theology-2013-year-in.html

Blogging About the Bible
And last but not least, the bible! I continue to write a lot about biblical texts, sharing things I've discovered, from the quirky to the profound. And I often float interpretive innovations. Some of this "midrash" is potentially insightful while a lot of it is very tenuous and speculative. Hey, there is a reason this blog is called experimental theology.

Some of the most popular posts about biblical texts from the year:

In Humility Hold Others Above Yourself (This post was exciting to me because my translational suggestions helped with the Open English Bible Translation. The recommendation and discussion thread here. H/T to Tim Chambers.)

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Coburn
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Timchambers wrote
2. Build out info on the Wikipedia page for the OEB and look for other places to post info about it there?
Need to get the OEB on the list of sources for the Wikipedia Bible verse citation template. Not sure how you do that.
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Timchambers
I think the first step is to login and post in the "Talk" tab requesting that they do with a link to the OEB.
You can see someone did just his about the New Jerusalem Bible translation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#New_Jerusalem_Bible
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Brian J. Henry
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The tool the bible verse template uses has been broken for a couple months now - it doesn't seem like anyone is sure when it will be back up (the maintainer seems to be MIA), and no one has volunteered to transfer the template over to a new tool.
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Coburn
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Timchambers wrote
4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.
Hoping to see the OEB on The Sword Project.
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russellallen
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We have a SWORD module (we need to generate a new version to match the current release) but we’re not on their BibleTool website. 



On 21 Feb 2015, at 4:58 am, Coburn [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Timchambers wrote
4. When we feel it's ready, I'd think submitting the OEB New Testament to the various "Online Bible" web services and top Bible reading mobile apps would be very crucial. Eventually MORE meaningful than print.
Hoping to see the OEB on The Sword Project.


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One other project that currently uses the WEB Bible Translation that we should reach out to....

http://www.peteenns.com/the-bible-and-the-21st-century/

and here:

http://i.theparallelbible.com/what.html

And here is their email:

If you are as interested/excited/passionate/curious as us, we'd love to be in touch. Chris is keen to connect at cmb [at] theparallelbible [dot] com.
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russellallen
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Interesting.
There’s a lot of apps out there. It’d be nice to be more visible.
I’ve contacted a few in the past and they’re usually very pleasant, but essentially say ‘Come back when you have an OT’
I think we need something round about WEB quality to get started.
I’ll have a draft version of 1 Samuel out shortly as a test for getting runs on the board quickly.
Watch this space as they say…
Russell

On 31 Aug 2015, at 9:27 am, Timchambers [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

One other project that currently uses the WEB Bible Translation that we should reach out to....

http://www.peteenns.com/the-bible-and-the-21st-century/

and here:

http://i.theparallelbible.com/what.html


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Timchambers
"I think we need something round about WEB quality to get started."

Sound accurate: do you think the NT books need improvement in edits to get there, or are you only thinking of the need for a full OT at WEB quality?
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russellallen
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I think the NT is at least WEB quality as it is, although there are many improvements I would like to make :)
But I was mostly thinking about getting the full OT out.
Russell

On 6 Sep 2015, at 4:09 am, Timchambers [via Open English Bible] <[hidden email]> wrote:

"I think we need something round about WEB quality to get started."

Sound accurate: do you think the NT books need improvement in edits to get there, or are you only thinking of the need for a full OT at WEB quality?


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Timchambers
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BTW, the OEB was mentioned and used in a very encouraging way in this blogger's discussion on how to best translate Romans 1 and 2 on homosexuality.

Whether or not you think this blogger's argument holds water, this is EXACTLY why an open, copyright free New Testament should exist, to help suss through the best possible translations, and to serve as a model for the other "closed source" translations to use.

As this blogger put it:

"The goal of biblical translation shouldn’t be to satisfy a theological agenda, nor should it be to preserve past interpretations when better options are available. Our English text of the Bible — including its punctuation — should convey the thoughts of the original authors in the most straightforward manner possible. The changes I’ve proposed to Romans 1 and 2 are at least as plausible as what appears in most of our current translations, and would go a long way toward clarifying this contentious text."
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