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Working Through the Book of Jude

Timchambers
My next project will be working through the book of Jude. Will be posting suggested corrections in this thread sequentially... Fun... Anyone feel free to join in.
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Timchambers
Obviously I've been quiet here for a while: work has gotten nuclear busy. Promise to pick back up on work on Jude before too long!
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Actually can do a quick addtion today:

Jude 1: 1-4 in the OEB currently reads:

To those who, having received the call, have been loved by God the Father and protected by Jesus Christ, From Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ, and the brother of James. 2 May mercy, peace, and love be yours in ever increasing measure.
 

Consider this revision, that puts the sentences in the order they are in Greek, cleans up the structure and tense of the sentence to be more natural and includes less awkward word choices:
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1. Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and a brother of James. To those who are called, loved by God the Father and protected by Jesus Christ.

2 May mercy, peace, and love be ever increasing to you.

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Jude 3 in the OEB currently reads:

Dear friends, while I was making every effort to write to you about our common salvation, I felt that I must write to you at once to encourage you to fight in defense of the faith that has once for all been entrusted to the keeping of Christ's people.

Consider changing to, this, with more natural sentence structure, and more accurate modern language:

 3 Dear friends, I was eager to write to you about our common salvation, but I now feel I must write to encourage you to carry on the struggle for the faith that has been entrusted to the saints once for all.
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Jude 4 in the OEB currently reads:

For there have crept in among you certain godless people, whose sentence has long since been pronounced, and who make the mercy of God an excuse for profligacy, and disown our only lord and master, Jesus Christ.


Consider changing to the following, which is tweaked for natural structure and more modern language from the original greek:


For certain men have secretly slipped in among you - whom long ago were marked for this judgement - they are ungodly men who turn the grace of God into an excuse for blatant vice, and disown our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

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Jude 5-7 reads currently:

5 Now I want to remind you — but you already know it all — that, though the Lord delivered the people from Egypt, yet he afterward destroyed those who refused to believe in him; 6 and that even those angels, who did not keep to their appointed spheres, but left their proper homes, have been kept by him for the judgment of the great day in everlasting chains and black darkness.

Consider changing to, this updated for more accurate, natural language:

Now I want to remind you — but you once already knew all this at one time — that the Lord, having saved the people from Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not stay in their own rightful positions,  but deserted their appointed dwelling, He has kept in everlasting chains and utter darkness, for the judgement of the great day.
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Jude 7 now reads:

Like Sodom and Gomorrah and the towns near them, which gave themselves up to fornication, and fell into unnatural vice, these angels now stand out as a warning, undergoing, as they are, punishment in eternal fire.

Consider changing to:

Like Sodom and Gomorrah and the towns near them, which indulged in sexual immorality - and in the same way as the angels perused unnatural desire - stand as a example, undergoing the punishment of the fire of the age.
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Jude 8-9 Currently read:

 Yet in the same way these people, too, cherishing vain dreams, pollute our human nature, reject control, and malign the celestial beings. 9 Yet even Michael, the archangel, when, in his dispute with the devil, he was arguing about the body of Moses, did not venture to charge him with maligning, but said merely ‘The Lord rebuke you!’

Consider changing to:

Yet in the same way, these people, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and defame celestial beings. But even when Michael, the archangel, was in debate with the devil about the body of Moses, he did not presume to defame him, but merely said "The Lord rebuke you!"
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Jude 10-11 reads:

10 But these people malign whatever they do not understand; while they use such things as they know by instinct (like the animals that have no reason) for their own corruption. 11 Alas for them! They walk in the steps of Cain; led astray by Balaam's love of gain, they plunge into sin, and meet their ruin through rebellion like Korah.

Consider changing to:

But these people defame whatever they do not understand. And what they do understand by instinct - like animals with no reason - are the things that are destroying them. 11. Woe to them! They take the path of Cain, and abandoned themselves to the error of Balaam for the sake of gain, and are destroyed in the rebellion of Korah.

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Jude 12-13 in the OEB reads:

 12 These are the people who are blots on your ‘love-feasts,’ when they feast together and provide without scruple for themselves alone. They are clouds without rain, driven before the winds; they are leafless trees without a vestige of fruit, dead through and through, torn up by the roots; 13 they are wild sea waves, foaming with their own shame; they are ‘wandering stars,’ for which the blackest darkness has been reserved for ever.

Consider changing to this. And note that the HSCB, ESV, NET and others translate the greek "spilas" as "reef" not as "blot" - http://biblehub.com/greek/4694.htm

These are the ones who are hidden reefs on your ‘love-feasts,’ feasting with you, but without reverence, and only caring for themselves. They are waterless clouds, driven away by the winds; autumn trees without fruit - and uprooted, completely dead; They are wild waves of the sea, casting up their shameful deeds like foam; wandering stars, for whom the blackest darkness has been reserved for the ages.

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The OEB in Jude 14-15 reads:

To these people, as to others, Enoch, the seventh in descent from Adam, declared — ‘See! The Lord has come with his hosts of holy ones around him, 15 to execute judgment on all people, and to convict all godless people of all their godless acts, which in their ungodliness they have committed, and of all the harsh words which they have spoken against him, godless sinners that they are!’


Consider changing to:

It was also about these people that Enoch, the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying: ‘Look! The Lord has come with thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all, and to convict them of all their godless acts, which in their ungodliness they have committed, and of all the harsh things ungodly sinners have said against Him.'

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Jude 16 currently reads:

These people are always murmuring, and complaining of their lot; they follow where their passions lead them; they have arrogant words on their lips; and they flatter others for the sake of what they can get from them.

Consider changing to:

These people are discontented grumblers, following where their sinful desires lead them. Their speech is boastfully arrogant, they flatter others for their own gain.
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Jude 18-19 in the OEB reads:


But you should, dear friends, recall what was foretold by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 how they used to say to you — ‘As time draws to an end, there will be scoffers, who will be led by their godless passions.’ 19 These are the people — animal and unspiritual — who cause divisions.


Consider changing to:

But you dear friends, remember what was foretold by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ.18 They said to you: ‘At the end of the age there will be scoffers, driven by their own ungodly desires.’ 19 These are the people — worldy and without of the Spirit — who cause divisions.
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In the OEB, Jude 20-23 reads:

 20 But you must, dear friends, build up your characters on the foundation of your most holy faith, pray under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, 21 and keep within the love of God, while waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, to bring you to eternal life. 22 To some show pity, because they are in doubt. ‘Drag them out of the fire,’ and save them. 23 To others show pity, but with caution, hating the clothing polluted by their touch.

Consider changing to:

 20 But you, dear friends, build up your self up in the most holy faith, and pray in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in the love of God, awaiting the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you the life of the age.
22 Have mercy on some that are wavering, save others by snatching them from the fire; have mercy on others - but with fear - hating even the clothes defiled by the flesh.

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In the OEB, verses 24-25 currently read:

 To him who is able to guard you from falling, and to bring you into his glorious presence, blameless and rejoicing — 25 to the one God, our Savior, be ascribed, through Jesus Christ, our Lord, glory, majesty, power, and dominion, as it was before time began, is now, and will be for all time to come. Amen.


Consider changing to:

Now to the one who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in his glorious presence, blameless and with great joy - to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ, our Lord, belong majesty, power and authority before all ages, now and for all ages to come. Amen.
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OK, done with the book of Jude!

Keeping with the idea of working through shorter books, next I'll go back to 2nd Peter.
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